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I want my laptop back and an explanation ASAP

rickycosgrove
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I want my laptop back and an explanation ASAP

RE: Sony laptop sent back for repair (Case Number: 2303903)

To Whom It May Concern:

Some Background Information:
Around the 21st of December 2006 I purchased a Sony Vaio Laptop C series (VGN-C2Z I think that’s the model number). After a day I noticed a problem with the laptop (the right mouse button on the laptop wasn’t working) and brought the laptop back to where I had purchased it (Sony Store, O Connell St. Limerick, ROI). They gave me a number to contact the repair centre, saying that was all they could do for me. I then contacted the repair centre (early January 2007) they advised me that all I could do was send it back to them which takes 3-5 working days but may be longer. I refused this option as I needed the laptop for work and found a way around the problem by plugging in an external mouse. Since the purchased the laptop a new problem seem to go wrong every couple of weeks, from the speakers not working to USB ports not working – until eventually the hard drive gave way.

Sent It Back For Repairs:
I sent my laptop back to 5-6 weeks ago I don’t have the exact date but I believe it to be either June 21st 2007 or June 28th 2007. Again I was reassured that the turn around are within 3-5 working days.

July 10th/11th (not sure which day)
I ring for an update on my laptop and get told that the mother board has been replaced but the laptop still isn’t working and that an engineer has to see it. I also get advised to push for a new laptop if I haven’t gotten my laptop back by the end of the week.

July 13th
I call to update my delivery address and I ask for a status report – I am waiting for over an hour to get through. The agent assures me he will call me back with an update. He never called me back and I have since found out that he never logged the call.

July 17th
I make another call inquiring about an update and explain that I called Friday and nobody ever got back to me. The lady I talk to apologizes and tells me she will get on this and call me straight back. Again she never called me back and I’ve since found out the call was never logged.

July 19th
I still haven’t received a call back and call again. The first thing I do this time is to ask for the agents’ name. His name is Fabien and he assures me I don’t need to know his second name as everyone there knows him. This call lasts about 20 minutes and I tell him I’m sick of people telling me they’ll call me back and they don’t. I am not happy that it has been nearly a month. I ask to talk to a manager he declines my request. I ask what steps I can take as this matter is unacceptable – he tells me there is none and be patient. He advises me that they (SONY) are still waiting for an engineer to look at my laptop and he will call me back. He still has not called me back but at least he logged the call.

July 30th (Today)
I called again and this time I was talking to Stuart. I asked to speak to Fabien and he would not put me on to him. I again asked to speak to a manager and was told no. Again I got the same 3 comments that I’ve gotten every time I call:

1. Sorry sir there is no record of your calls (apart from Fabiens),
2. We are waiting for a sony technician/engineer to inspect your laptop
3. We will call you back.

This time Stuart did call me back. He told me they are still waiting for an engineer and that’s all he could do. He was extremely rude to me but eventually gave me this e-mail address. This is my last reach out to Sony Vaio, thereafter I will take the matter legal. The two options that I am aware of are:
1. Consult with a solicitor,
2. Bring Sony to small claims court,

I have also been advised to go to local radio stations and newspapers with this,

If someone from Sony were to walk up to me today, laptop in hand I will now no longer accept that. From Sony I need a clear explanation and apology for this whole matter as well as compensation for the phone calls I’ve made to Sony which are now quite considerable. Finally and most obviously I want either my laptop back repaired or a new laptop ASAP.

Below I have quoted the Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980 which you are in breach of. I should also advice that I now am aware that my contract is with the retailer 1st and the manufacturer 2nd. I find the fact that the only option made to me by the Sony Store was to send my laptop back after 1 day a sham and is also clearly in breach of the below.

Under the Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980, anything you buy from a retailer must be:

of merchantable quality
fit for its normal purpose, and reasonably durable
as described, whether the description is part of the advertising or wrapping, on a label, or something said by the salesperson.

When you buy goods from a retailer, you make a contract with him. He agrees to provide certain goods to you for a certain price. If your purchase turns out to be faulty, the retailer, not the manufacturer, is responsible to you and must sort out your complaint. You are entitled to a refund, a replacement or a repair.

You do not have to take a credit note if your complaint is covered by the Sale of Goods Act. You can insist on a refund, a replacement or a repair.

If you have a genuine complaint about faulty goods, you can ignore shop notices such as 'No Refunds' or 'No Exchanges'. Such notices cannot take away any of your statutory rights under the Sale of Goods Act see Retailers' responses.

You have no rights under the Sale of Goods Act if you simply change your mind about wanting the goods. You also have no rights if faults are due to misuse of the product after purchase, or if faults should have been obvious or were pointed out at the time of purchase.

The person who purchased the goods holds the rights under the Act. If you receive the goods as a gift, you have no contract with the retailer and don't have the same rights. In practice, most retailers will oblige the user of the goods but this is a gesture of goodwill, not a legal requirement.

Your rights under the Act also apply to goods purchased at sale prices. They must be of merchantable quality, fit for their particular purpose and as described. If goods are being sold as seconds or shop-soiled, however, you cannot expect the same standard.

Second-hand goods

These must also be of merchantable quality but the standards are lower. If you buy something through a private sale, your rights are greatly diminished. Goods do not have to be of merchantable quality, they merely have to be owned by the seller and fit their description. It is up to you to check out the goods before buying.

Services are also covered by the Act. There is a contract between the supplier of a service and the consumer who pays for the service. You are entitled to expect that the supplier:

has the necessary skill to provide the service
provides the service with proper care and diligence
uses sound materials and supplies goods of merchantable quality.
If the service you receive is unsatisfactory in any of these ways, you may be entitled to a remedy or compensation to make up for the difference in value between the service that should have been provided and what was actually provided.

Consumer rights do not always apply in relation to unsatisfactory services. The supplier of the service may limit his responsibility in some way, for example, through an exclusion clause. However, a clause of this kind is only valid if it is specifically brought to the consumer's attention and only if it is fair and reasonable.

Regards,
Ricky Cosgrove

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kee-lo_
Member

Hope you do get that model, at least it will be a consolidation for the problem, but still it would be nice if people really did get some manners and say sorry properly, after all you're the one who goes out to work to earn the dough to buy it, they could at least be grateful that you chose Sony and wanted to spend the cash on a VAIO. There are literally 100s of computer companies in Europe and Sony shouldn't forget it or become complacent, we live in a time of choice, not in a time where any old thing will do.

I'm still not happy about the attitude I got - specially as many other people have posted similar solutions and I don't see them being told off about it.

Anyway I am happy you've got some sort of solution - this will be officially the last person I have helped on Club VAIO. Note that even though I retreated from Club VAIO, I kept monitoring this thread to help you, how many others would be this dedicated?

rickycosgrove
Visitor

Excellent Ricky!

I'm glad there's a resolution for you :slight_smile:


We've been here before and things have not been resolved so I won't hold my breath.

Thanks for you help again :slight_smile:

rickycosgrove
Visitor

Hope you do get that model, at least it will be a consolidation for the problem, but still it would be nice if people really did get some manners and say sorry properly, after all you're the one who goes out to work to earn the dough to buy it, they could at least be grateful that you chose Sony and wanted to spend the cash on a VAIO.  There are literally 100s of computer companies in Europe and Sony shouldn't forget it or become complacent, we live in a time of choice, not in a time where any old thing will do.

I'm still not happy about the attitude I got - specially as many other people have posted similar solutions and I don't see them being told off about it.

Anyway I am happy you've got some sort of solution - this will be officially the last person I have helped on Club VAIO. Note that even though I retreated from Club VAIO, I kept monitoring this thread to help you, how many others would be this dedicated?


It's getting to the point where I don't even care anymore - the big Sony corporation are wearing me down :slight_frown:

I will agree that there are loads of different brands out there and I have now bought and am trying a new one - Vaio have really shot themselves regarding me as I had bought 3 laptops from them in the last 2 years.

I don't think it was right the attitude you got but I didn't really want to comment on that as I wanted a fast resolution to my problem. However I do think it was bad what was said to you - and instead of people from Sony coming on here and talking down to a voulanteer, maybe they should try putting more of their energy into solving customer problems in an acceptable time frame :devil:

Thanks for your help and advice - sorry if you've lost something through this. If you lived around Ireland I'd buy you a pint - I just really hope something comes of this..... and soon!!!!

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kee-lo_
Member

LOL they lost, not me, I'm happy without the streses of solving issues that really should be done by VAIO-Link, as they're paid to work - and we're not and the customer pays for support as part of the computer or piece of equipment. So really it's not a great loss to me, I just feel it's a shame people are loosing out on my support, but many have said it isn't the case so that's their view.

At the end of the day, I helped for 4 years, had a lot of successes and it's time for someone else to work hard.

One thing I hate is computer snobbery, people snubbing others for owning a PC model like Packard Bell, at the end of the day if

1) the PC works
2) it's to the customer's needs
3) they're happy

then it's not a big deal if it's Dell, Sony or Fujitsu.

Vive la difference

rickycosgrove
Visitor

Caroline rang Friday and apologised that the spec was wrong and they said I'd get the RAM sent out to me. Then they said I might have to send the laptop back again!!!!!

I'll be happy when this is over once and for all - Caroline is calling me back Monday and confirming the next steps

Suburbanlegend
Visitor

You'd have thought they'd have just sent you out another by now. That's what they do in the mobile telecommunications industry if you've had long issues with your phone. I've seen some pretty bad customer care in that industry, but this is plain lame.

Why don't they just send you out the updated model and then you return the original model? Instead of waiting around any further. It stinks of complete incompetence.

Sadly I've got a tricker dilemma because it's software and driver related, not hardware. I bought my AR41S thinking it would capture my old VHS Videos via S-Video-In out of the box. I was wrong, yet the technical specifications page on Club Vaio states it supports Audio (Left) In, Audio (Right) In, Video In, S-Video In, UHF/VHF Connector, PAL, SECAM, Video Decoder.

None of the applications Sony supply support capturing from S-Video-In and because AverMedia make the TV Tuner, I'm imagining a very very long wait until it's working and even then there's the question of whether there'll actually ever be Audio support too. The driver was last updated in April, and because it's 3rd Party it probably pretty much allows Sony to dodge the bullet.

I'm trying Vaio-Link for now, but the process seems to be pretty slow and the problem solving seems a bit weak. Here's an example:

Dear Mr X, 

Thanks for contacting us.

Has it worked before ?
Click on start > Control Panel > System > Hardware > Device manager
Click on sound video and game controllers and expand

Right click on video controller/ hybrid tuner and select uninstall
Restart the vaio
Should pop up with message on restart found new hardware
Does this work ?
Regards
Y
Sony Vaio Team


Of course, uninstalling my device will get it to work. Why didn't I think of that? Hmmmmmm. Obviously I reinstalled the drivers, but this doesn't exactly inspire much confidence in Vaio-Link.

I know my problem is off-topic, but I feel that i'm gonna be travelling on a very long road too but I'm starting to feel like the AR41S has been falsely advertised and not getting the full product I bought it for.

pringe83
Visitor

Apologies for the OT but WRT the image above - how did you get your quick launch to display as a strip above the window selectors like on a Mac? Looks very useful!

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kee-lo_
Member

Sorry to hear that Ricky, just seems like it's never ending. You would have thought they would have DHL'ed you a new one and asked you to give the old one back to the driver to give back to Sony...

That pringe83 is just the Quick Launch bar widened to fit the whole start menu and then large icons used.

rickycosgrove
Visitor

Caroline called again today,

They told me that they are going to send me out the extra RAM and for me to put it in myself, unless I want to send the laptop back again and get them to do it. They said it should be here in 2 days. They've also said they'll send me out some goodwill to go with it.

Hopefully that will be the end of that,

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kee-lo_
Member

Wow, goodwill can be packaged and sent :laughing: