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I want my laptop back and an explanation ASAP

rickycosgrove
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I want my laptop back and an explanation ASAP

RE: Sony laptop sent back for repair (Case Number: 2303903)

To Whom It May Concern:

Some Background Information:
Around the 21st of December 2006 I purchased a Sony Vaio Laptop C series (VGN-C2Z I think that’s the model number). After a day I noticed a problem with the laptop (the right mouse button on the laptop wasn’t working) and brought the laptop back to where I had purchased it (Sony Store, O Connell St. Limerick, ROI). They gave me a number to contact the repair centre, saying that was all they could do for me. I then contacted the repair centre (early January 2007) they advised me that all I could do was send it back to them which takes 3-5 working days but may be longer. I refused this option as I needed the laptop for work and found a way around the problem by plugging in an external mouse. Since the purchased the laptop a new problem seem to go wrong every couple of weeks, from the speakers not working to USB ports not working – until eventually the hard drive gave way.

Sent It Back For Repairs:
I sent my laptop back to 5-6 weeks ago I don’t have the exact date but I believe it to be either June 21st 2007 or June 28th 2007. Again I was reassured that the turn around are within 3-5 working days.

July 10th/11th (not sure which day)
I ring for an update on my laptop and get told that the mother board has been replaced but the laptop still isn’t working and that an engineer has to see it. I also get advised to push for a new laptop if I haven’t gotten my laptop back by the end of the week.

July 13th
I call to update my delivery address and I ask for a status report – I am waiting for over an hour to get through. The agent assures me he will call me back with an update. He never called me back and I have since found out that he never logged the call.

July 17th
I make another call inquiring about an update and explain that I called Friday and nobody ever got back to me. The lady I talk to apologizes and tells me she will get on this and call me straight back. Again she never called me back and I’ve since found out the call was never logged.

July 19th
I still haven’t received a call back and call again. The first thing I do this time is to ask for the agents’ name. His name is Fabien and he assures me I don’t need to know his second name as everyone there knows him. This call lasts about 20 minutes and I tell him I’m sick of people telling me they’ll call me back and they don’t. I am not happy that it has been nearly a month. I ask to talk to a manager he declines my request. I ask what steps I can take as this matter is unacceptable – he tells me there is none and be patient. He advises me that they (SONY) are still waiting for an engineer to look at my laptop and he will call me back. He still has not called me back but at least he logged the call.

July 30th (Today)
I called again and this time I was talking to Stuart. I asked to speak to Fabien and he would not put me on to him. I again asked to speak to a manager and was told no. Again I got the same 3 comments that I’ve gotten every time I call:

1. Sorry sir there is no record of your calls (apart from Fabiens),
2. We are waiting for a sony technician/engineer to inspect your laptop
3. We will call you back.

This time Stuart did call me back. He told me they are still waiting for an engineer and that’s all he could do. He was extremely rude to me but eventually gave me this e-mail address. This is my last reach out to Sony Vaio, thereafter I will take the matter legal. The two options that I am aware of are:
1. Consult with a solicitor,
2. Bring Sony to small claims court,

I have also been advised to go to local radio stations and newspapers with this,

If someone from Sony were to walk up to me today, laptop in hand I will now no longer accept that. From Sony I need a clear explanation and apology for this whole matter as well as compensation for the phone calls I’ve made to Sony which are now quite considerable. Finally and most obviously I want either my laptop back repaired or a new laptop ASAP.

Below I have quoted the Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980 which you are in breach of. I should also advice that I now am aware that my contract is with the retailer 1st and the manufacturer 2nd. I find the fact that the only option made to me by the Sony Store was to send my laptop back after 1 day a sham and is also clearly in breach of the below.

Under the Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980, anything you buy from a retailer must be:

of merchantable quality
fit for its normal purpose, and reasonably durable
as described, whether the description is part of the advertising or wrapping, on a label, or something said by the salesperson.

When you buy goods from a retailer, you make a contract with him. He agrees to provide certain goods to you for a certain price. If your purchase turns out to be faulty, the retailer, not the manufacturer, is responsible to you and must sort out your complaint. You are entitled to a refund, a replacement or a repair.

You do not have to take a credit note if your complaint is covered by the Sale of Goods Act. You can insist on a refund, a replacement or a repair.

If you have a genuine complaint about faulty goods, you can ignore shop notices such as 'No Refunds' or 'No Exchanges'. Such notices cannot take away any of your statutory rights under the Sale of Goods Act see Retailers' responses.

You have no rights under the Sale of Goods Act if you simply change your mind about wanting the goods. You also have no rights if faults are due to misuse of the product after purchase, or if faults should have been obvious or were pointed out at the time of purchase.

The person who purchased the goods holds the rights under the Act. If you receive the goods as a gift, you have no contract with the retailer and don't have the same rights. In practice, most retailers will oblige the user of the goods but this is a gesture of goodwill, not a legal requirement.

Your rights under the Act also apply to goods purchased at sale prices. They must be of merchantable quality, fit for their particular purpose and as described. If goods are being sold as seconds or shop-soiled, however, you cannot expect the same standard.

Second-hand goods

These must also be of merchantable quality but the standards are lower. If you buy something through a private sale, your rights are greatly diminished. Goods do not have to be of merchantable quality, they merely have to be owned by the seller and fit their description. It is up to you to check out the goods before buying.

Services are also covered by the Act. There is a contract between the supplier of a service and the consumer who pays for the service. You are entitled to expect that the supplier:

has the necessary skill to provide the service
provides the service with proper care and diligence
uses sound materials and supplies goods of merchantable quality.
If the service you receive is unsatisfactory in any of these ways, you may be entitled to a remedy or compensation to make up for the difference in value between the service that should have been provided and what was actually provided.

Consumer rights do not always apply in relation to unsatisfactory services. The supplier of the service may limit his responsibility in some way, for example, through an exclusion clause. However, a clause of this kind is only valid if it is specifically brought to the consumer's attention and only if it is fair and reasonable.

Regards,
Ricky Cosgrove

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rickycosgrove
Visitor

I received the RAM (memory) in the post today.

However no sign of good will - maybe this is coming, I don't know.

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jumpsuit
Expert

Fingers crossed Ricky - I think you're on the home stretch :slight_smile:

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kee-lo_
Member

I received the RAM (memory) in the post today.


Cool :cool:

amaru007
Visitor

i've been reading this for the drama :smileygrin:
damn its good!

i'd note 1 thing, like ricky i've bought 3 vaios is the last 2-3 years, and i swear he vaios just get easier to break eachtime. the last one i had the keys kept poping off and the volume+ key paint peeled away. and dont get me started on the unable to downgrade from vista to xp crap they intoruced this time round.

hope everything gets sorted for you ricky, although i would say that the sony products i've bought over the last 10 years, i've had nothing broke or send back yet, and we're talking most electical products they make (walkman, diskman, md player, tv, camcorder, dig.cam, vaio, phone and a few other things.

littlebucko
Visitor

hi i am a it technitian and i can tell you that after reading over 3000 pages on law aboy laptops/pc's it is 28 days for repair then it is a new laptop sent out but please put in mind that sony is a big and busy make and does try to help

make sure you dont go with packard bell / hp (same maker)
as i had a packard bell e1245 and i had it 2 days things went wrong this is a list of the problems

2nd day main board blew

3rd day sent for repair

8th day got it back

8th day screen blew (after power on)

9th day sent for repair

14th day got it back thought it will be a new one but NO same thing

15th day hdd set on fire

16th day sent for repair

3 months later got it back and it smoked at me not even turning on

next day after 5 hours on the phone costing over £30 told they will pick it up

a week YES A WEEK later it was sent for repair told it was a fault

next day got it back powerd it on and hay presto i got fire and the keyboard melted

rang them up and thay said ( hi sir i can tell you it is still ok to use please just turn it on and it should work)

well every one can say it wont work after being on fire durrr

so it went of for repair and this taking a year nearly i asked if i can have some money for a new laptop as packard bell are too unreliable

i was told they will try to sort somethig out

6 months later i got a letter saying the laptop had not been checked when first made and to say sorry gave me £800 back

this was now no good as i had finished most of my college things and never got to use my laptop :<<br/>
i put some extra money to get tis laptop the new fs315m costing me (£1500)
and i have had no problems but i am just saying sony is the most upcoming maker that you can buy and they may take some time to sort things with being so popular but it is worth it
so try to stay with sony

thank you

please email me if you want to at this link
please email me if you need help

i hope i dont upset anyone

rickycosgrove
Visitor

Ok - sony called this morning and as their good will jesture they are going to post me out a sony walkman (no idea what one etc).

So to recap - i sent my laptop back 3 months ago for repair:
This is almost at an end and from Sony's side they have given me:
A new unit to replace my 5 month old one
More Ram
Upgraded my operating system
A sony walkman (pending)

What do people think? Time to let it drop? Is this exceptable?

Thanks again for all your comments and help guys,

Ricky

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jumpsuit
Expert

Hi Ricky

I think thats not a bad result at all from a manufacturer.

Of course its up to you what you want to do, but whatever you decide at least you have a new unit plus upgrades and a walkman which will kick an ipod's backside for sound quality :slight_smile:

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kee-lo_
Member

That's really your decision, I think it's not a bad deal, but I think it would have been more appropriate to give you the value of the walkman - as you've made countless calls and have had a loss of earnings from the laptops malfunction.

It's up to you, you could just eBay it and count your losses, keep it, or take it further. I don't think you'd get much joy, they would simply say they've made every effort to compensate you - plus the RAM, OS upgrade and new laptop is pretty good in itself.

Close the case, it's stressful to deal with this type of thing, and now you've got an OK deal, but that's my opinion. At least they can't say it's an agressive stance can they :laughing:

Also if you've done a calculation of how much earnings you've lost then you'll know how well balanced the deal is, obviously I can't help you there.

Vaio300554
Visitor

Hi ricki,
ich kann den beschriebenen Reparaturablauf aus eigener Erfahrung nur bestätigen.
Mir wurde vom Support eine Reparaturzeit von 5- 10 Tagen genannt.
Mein Laptop war vom 11.7. bis 31.8. im Reparaturzentrum. Garantie bis Juni 2008
Problem war: Win XP konnte nicht installiert werden und Austausch der spanischen Tastatur gegen eine deutsche Tastatur.

Ergebnis vom Support:
1.HDD defekt und Tausch der Tastatur Kosten ca. 775,--€ . Auf Nachfrage warum so teuer, dann
2.HDD auf Garantie und nur die deutsche Tastatur 173 €.

Reparaturstatus auf der Internetseite: ausgetauscht wurden:
HDD
Keybord unit (DE)

Am 3.9.2007 Laptop wieder zurück
Ergebnis:
Spanische Tastatur anstatt die bezahlte deutsche Tastatur
WinXP auf spanisch anstatt auf deutsch
HDD ausgetauscht

Telefonat mit Support am 3.9.07
Angebot vom VL:
1.kostenlos Laptop abholen und Keybord tauschen. Reparaturdauer ca. 5 -10 Tage
2.Garantiezeit wird für die Dauer des Reparaturablauf verlängert.
Mein Angebot:
Tausch des Laptops

Support will mich innerhalb von 48 Stunden anrufen.

Ich überlege, ob ich die spanische Sprache erlerne.

rickycosgrove
Visitor

Quick update:

Sony sent me the RAM for my new laptop so my system would now be 2Gb. However Sony been Sony had 2 512Mb chips in the 2 memory ports. So my laptop now has 1.5Gb memory instead of the 2Gb.

I'm now getting sick of blunder after blunder on their side - it's going beyond an absolute joke

Hi ricki,
ich kann den beschriebenen Reparaturablauf aus eigener Erfahrung nur bestätigen.
Mir wurde vom Support eine Reparaturzeit von 5- 10 Tagen genannt.
Mein Laptop war vom 11.7. bis 31.8. im Reparaturzentrum. Garantie bis Juni 2008
Problem war: Win XP konnte nicht installiert werden und Austausch der spanischen Tastatur gegen eine deutsche Tastatur.

Ergebnis vom Support:
1.HDD defekt und Tausch der Tastatur Kosten ca. 775,--€ . Auf Nachfrage warum so teuer, dann
2.HDD auf Garantie und nur die deutsche Tastatur 173 €.

Reparaturstatus auf der Internetseite: ausgetauscht wurden:
HDD
Keybord unit (DE)

Am 3.9.2007 Laptop wieder zurück
Ergebnis:
Spanische Tastatur anstatt die bezahlte deutsche Tastatur
WinXP auf spanisch anstatt auf deutsch
HDD ausgetauscht

Telefonat mit Support am 3.9.07
Angebot vom VL:
1.kostenlos Laptop abholen und Keybord tauschen. Reparaturdauer ca. 5 -10 Tage
2.Garantiezeit wird für die Dauer des Reparaturablauf verlängert.
Mein Angebot:
Tausch des Laptops

Support will mich innerhalb von 48 Stunden anrufen.

Ich überlege, ob ich die spanische Sprache erlerne.


Sorry mate I don't understand German!!!