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Martin_Smith
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Giga Juke

I have a sony giga juke.  It will not turn on using the remote - it is showing a blue flashing light as if it is in standby but the controls on the unit or the remote will not work.  This happended before and I had to turn it off at the mains.  Has anyone had this problem.

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alralph15
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Hi All,

I had a reply back from consumer direct.(see below).........

Based on the information you have provided the key legal points in response to your enquiry are as follows:

Your contract is with the trader Hughes and not the manufacturer. The rights you have against the manufacturer would be dependent on the terms and conditions of any manufacturing warranty/guarantee which may have been provided at the time of purchase.

If this has now expired, realistically you may find it difficult to pursue the manufacturer directly for redress, however, you may be within your rights to pursue the trader using the following Consumer Legislation: -

The purchase of the Sony Hi-fi product may be covered under the Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as amended)  

You should be able to expect that the Sony Hi-fi product purchased will be of a satisfactory quality - free from defects and durable.

If the Sony Hi-fi product purchased is not of a satisfactory quality you may be able to pursue the retailer who sold this for a repair, like for like replacement, refund/partial refund.

You may be within your rights to request any of the above. If, however, it would be deemed reasonable for a repair to be carried out in the first instance the trader may be within their rights to do so initially.

If the repair fails you may then be entitled to a like for like replacement, refund/partial refund. The trader may request payment towards a replacement or offer a partial refund and may be within their rights to do so when taking into account the length of time you have had the goods and the use you have had out of them.

If a defect appears within the first 6 months of purchase the law assumes it was faulty at supply and the burden to prove otherwise would be the retailer.

However, once goods are more than 6 months old, the onus is with the consumer to prove an inherent fault was present at supply.

The above Consumer Legislation states your statutory rights and are additional rights over and above any warranty/guarantee which may have been provided at the time of purchase. These rights are valid for a period of 6 years for purchases made in England and are applicable to inherent manufacturing faults only, therefore this legislation does not cover general wear and tear or accidental damage.

I would advise speaking to the company in the first instance to see what they are willing to do and if the issue is not resolved make a more formal complaint via a recorded delivery letter (keeping a copy for your records and giving a reasonable deadline for response).

I would advise that you send the letter via recorded delivery as this provides evidence that you have sent a letter to the trader and also provides evidence that the trader has received this letter.

There is a template letter available on the website if required.

If the response from them is not satisfactory, please feel free to get back in touch with an update and further advice can be offered.

Where goods or services have been paid for using a form of credit, i.e. a credit card or a credit agreement arranged by the trader, you may have an equal liability claim against the credit firm under section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 provided the purchase amount is over £100.

I would advise contacting the credit card company and advising them of the breach.

This can be followed up via a recorded delivery letter, outlining the problems you have experienced and giving a deadline for the same resolution as requested from the trader within a set period of time.

You should retain copies of your letters for your records.

I will also make the details of your concerns available to Trading Standards for consideration. Your contact details will be made available to them and they can contact you directly if they require any further information or are able to provide feedback in relation to this enquiry............

Regards

Alan

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simgibbo4
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Alan,

Some useful info in there.  I would be keen to help follow up on this given the number of us who have suffered this problem and all the associated inconvenience.  The system seemed like such a good idea when I purchased it but its painfully slow even without this sort of bug. I must admit having bought mine on-line I don't really fancy the inconvenience of having to pay to ship it back to the seller who wont have a clue how to fix it.  I think we need to demand Sony resolve this or refund us all.  Given the relatively small percentage of owners who are likely to a) be on this post and b) have actually posted I imagine this must be an issue for hundreds if not thousands of people.  It would be interesting to know if this has affected only the UK users or if its a wider problem.

Cheers

Simon

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alralph15
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Hi,

Unfortunatly in the uk we dont have a "class action" like the usa where someone can represent all the parties, I guess its upto everyone to do thier own thing. I too have the same issue with my supplier, who will take the unit in for a repair, but without a fix from sony, its just going to gather dust in thier workshop.  I guess if nothing is forthcomming from Sony in another month, then I will have to make a claim againts the dealer that the product is no longer fit for purpose and cant be repaired.

I tried to look at some other sony websites arround the world, and apart from the language issues, I could only see product information, and not a forum like this. Perhaps if someone has better language skills they could do the research and see if it just the uk.

Alan

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specialist-convergence
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Hi All

This issue is still under investigation, we are not 100% sure what has happened and have contacted all 3rd parties to see what changes have been done to the external services the GigaJuke uses.  Once we identify what has changed and what implications this will have long term we can advise on a solution, however this is not something Sony has no direct control over and is causing as much frustration for our technical team as it is for our customers, but I can assure you, every effort is being taken to identify the cause and the route to resolve it.  We will update when we have answers, we don’t want to point fingers when we don’t know.

We can only confirm nothing has changed on your product, it is a service it uses that has changed, resetting the network connection is the only way to work around the issue, but of cause does not last long, we are sorry there is no good news at this time, we update the forum again when we have something new.

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tobler2
Visitor

What other 3rd parties are involved?

Sony = Sony, Gracenote = Sony, anybody else?

Tried my system again today - same old,same old!!!

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HDFatboy96
Visitor

Thanks for the info Alralph

I'm still watching and still waiting. It'll be interesting to see how Sony handle this.....But I'm not holding my breath!

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specialist-convergence
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Hi tobler2

Yes both are owned by Sony Corp, however each company are individual business groups, and have there own development and research, Gracenote may have made a change to the data, or even to there whole software process which may inadvertently affected the Giga jukes, however they would not check with all the products and manufactures/Software vendors to check for conflicts, they as we would, rely on the community to feed back issues, this may not be the best way to make changes and upgrade software to give a better user experience, but this has also been the way the industry deals with improvements, once we identify what changes are affecting the Giga juke range a fix at the source or on your product will be done, but this is not going to happen very quickly, it is a difficult process to find what modification or software improvement is the cause and then how to resolve one issue without causing any further problems.

All this being said, it is still being investigated.

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HDFatboy96
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Looking forward to the conclusion of these investigations....Thanks

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booliejockley
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Hi,

I am so thankful I have found this forum as I have spent the last 2 days trying to work out what the flipping heck was going on with my gigajuke.:smileyconfused:

Even my son got the blame for being on his playstation 3 all the while and clogging up the network!!

The problem I have is the same as most of you on here, unless I turn the system off and on at the plug it will not respond. When I do get it on I try the system update which either tells me it can't connect to the server (hence 2 days of resetting that) or it tells me to select a function.

To be quite honest I am thankful there is a problem and just hope sony get around to fixing it.

Like you have all said the gigajuke wasnt a cheap piece of equipment (the most by far I have ever spent on anything) and it has really made me question whether with technology updating all the while whether it was worth it.

Saying that I do like my gigajuke and would like it to be fixed and operating at its best.

Julie

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hinneybeast
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I have exactly the same problem - started a few weeks ago and had the same response from Sony via email from a Stuart Adams.

He suggested a hard reset (power and stop) and that music file on the hard drive was corrupted and that I should format the drive; if that didn't work a trip to the nearest Sony Centre to organise a repair.

Tried pulling out the LAN cable, did a hard reset and it's working.

This has to be something at the Sony end, not sure if they can issue an operating system update without me selecting it, or if they have updated their servers post identity theft crisis and the Gigajuke can't report back to the mother ship (don't know if it did this anyway, but it's certainly a problem that can be solved by disconnecting it from the internet).

Come on Sony, what is going on?